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#570
Re: Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) for XO
rbacher
Contributor
Posts: 31
July 25, 2009, 09:56:08 AM
It's not working! When I right click a menu comes up with about 10 things (Zoom In, Show All ... Settings). Then when I click on Settings another menu comes up. There are 5 icons at the bottom. They are very small. The first 3 I cannot make out. The last 2 show a microphone and videocam. So far so good. But when I click on the microphone nothing happens. Same result when I click on the videocam. I don't know enough about Linux, Ubuntu, and Adobe to know at this point what the problem is. My hunch is that Midori just doesn't support these functions. I may play around with it later, and if I get it working in Midori, I'll make another post with those results
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#571
Re: Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) for XO
overbyte
Commenter
Posts: 16
July 25, 2009, 03:35:43 PM
Have you checked whether sound works at all in your Ubuntu-XO? Try the Sound Recorder application. If you can't get it to hear a volume level from the built-in microphone, try messing with the settings in the volume control. I had kind of a nightmare getting the settings to work in Ubuntu on my XO. Here's what I think I did to get it working:
How to make sound work.
I say "what I think I did" because I tried so many things that didn't work.
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#572
Re: Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) for XO
rbacher
Contributor
Posts: 31
July 25, 2009, 04:19:05 PM
Here's an update which may help. First, I have both Midori and Firefox on my XO. When I run Firefox on the XO I get the same result as I get with Midori. So if it works with Firefox on your XO but not mine, it's a problem with something in my XO (not with Midori). Second, when I try to play something on Youtube on the XO, I get sound but no picture (just stays black). Third, I have a dual boot (WinXP and Ubuntu Jaunty) on my other computer. When I go into Ubuntu on that computer, everything works perfectly in both Firefox and Midori. So it's not Midori, and I need to figure out the problem on my XO. I had had Youtube working on it when I ran XFCE on top of the Fedora, before switching to Intrepid, so I know you can do it. My problem now might be that I downloaded alot of stuff trying to install Midori before I figured out how to do it right, and I think something is now conflicting with something else. I'm going to buy a bigger SD card (I have 2gb and it's at 91%) and reinstall everything. Anyway, you were concerned if Midori can run Flash 10, and it's clear enough at this point that it can.
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#573
Re: Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) for XO
overbyte
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Posts: 16
July 25, 2009, 06:34:47 PM
FYI, I have firmware Q2E41 installed on my XO. Check the firmware version on your XO (boot without the SD card, go to Sugar's control panel).
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#574
Re: Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) for XO -- Running Sugar as application on Ubuntu.
overbyte
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Posts: 16
July 29, 2009, 09:34:13 PM
Now that I had gotten Teapot's Ubuntu 8.10 version running from a bootable 2GB SD card in my XO, I wanted to try Sugar without removing the SD card and rebooting each time. I found instructions for running Sugar on Sugar Emulator on Ubuntu 8.10 at
www.sugarlabs.org
. I installed it on my XO-Ubuntu.
Sugar is started by executing from X-Terminal that is launched from the top panel of Ubuntu:
sugar-emulator
or by creating a launcher icon on the Xfce desktop. When I launched from X-Terminal, a Xephyr window opened, displayed the default X11 texture screen, then it turned white. Sugar asked me for my name and then gave me the color selector for the OLPC "person" icon, just as it does when an XO laptop is first run. No button or instruction said what to do after I chose my color, so I changed the bottom panel to auto-hide. Still no indication, so I pressed the Enter key. After a few seconds, Sugar came up with my home page, then displayed a "Your Journal is empty" page. I pressed the F3 key (Home). I clicked on the Browse icon (globe) and waited. The Browse icon displayed and pulsed. It gave up after quite a while without actually displaying the Browse screen. I tried again with same result. I brought up the Terminal from bottom panel again and saw many warnings, debug messages, and a few error messages. I closed Terminal. The Sugar window then wiped out and showed the X window pattern. It never re-drew Sugar. I gave up after a few minutes and closed the Xephyr window. To check whether this was a permissions problem, I opened X-Terminal again and launched sugar-emulator with sudo. It behaved the same as before, when I launched Browse. From Home, I launched Calculate. Calculate ran. The bottom of it is cut off, though, with no scroll bar to get there, so I changed top panel to auto-hide. I moved the Xephyr window containing Sugar upward, but it wasn't quite enough to bring the bottom of Calculate buttons into full view. This is minor unless some activity has control information at the bottom of its screen, such as buttons to control the activity. The calculator works. Font for keys entered is too small, though.
The Sugar activities loaded are: Pippy, Browse, Chat, Calculate, Terminal, TurtleArt, and Memorize. In Sugar Terminal, "df" reports that there still are 241688 bytes free on the SD drive.
Initially, Sugar doesn't activate the frame. Looking at Frame on Control Panel, I see that the delay is instantaneous for corner trigger and never for side trigger. I changed to never for corner and 0.9 sec for side, but still frame doesn't display. I noticed that the change requires restart of Sugar. I clicked Restart Now. The Xephyr window closed. I brought up the X-Terminal from bottom panel again. I see that the sugar-shell reports "received CloseConnection", XIO reports fatal IO error 11, and sugar-shell reports Fatal IO error 0 (Success) on X server :2.0. When I relaunched Sugar Emulator, I noticed that the frame does work, but only when I put the mouse pointer in the Xephyr window titlebar or left edge of screen. That's good enough.
This should not be an obstacle to using Sugar from within Ubuntu for our project explained at
www.internetmathtutoring.com/olpc
. We will distribute Sugar with a few activities of our choice on the SD memory card for this project.
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#575
Re: Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) for XO
snip3up
Commenter
Posts: 8
August 03, 2009, 08:41:02 PM
can i use a usb stick for this
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#576
Re: Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) for XO
overbyte
Commenter
Posts: 16
August 03, 2009, 08:57:31 PM
Look at this site for :
Sugar on a Stick
.
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#577
Re: Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) for XO
overbyte
Commenter
Posts: 16
August 03, 2009, 09:13:31 PM
Sugar emulator has problems on my Ubuntu 8.10 running on the SD card in my XO-1. Browse does not launch, so I am downloading Sugar activities using Firefox and installing them using /usr/bin/sugar-install-bundle. The installer does some erratic things, which I'm still trying to figure out. I was successful installing Measure activity. But installing Clock resulted in an activity that displays its top panel of control buttons, but no clock in the lower panel. The Neighborhood view does not show any access point icon, even though the XO has successfully connected to my wireless router through Ubuntu -- not a big deal, but shows that Sugar emulation does not implement all of Sugar's features.
Sugar emulator runs Sugar in a Xephyr window. This leaves a titlebar with the name Xephyr rather than something more intuitive, such as a title of Sugar. Even better would be no window decoration at all, since the title bar takes up screen real estate which causes Sugar activities not to have a full screen display. That cuts off a little of the lower portion of the application display, which affects some activities.
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#578
Re: Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) for XO
snip3up
Commenter
Posts: 8
August 04, 2009, 06:13:41 AM
i just wanted to know if
i can use a usb to get
this the because instructions look like
its only for a memorystick
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#579
Re: Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) for XO
overbyte
Commenter
Posts: 16
August 04, 2009, 06:37:56 AM
Sugar on a Stick site
says:
Quote
The Sugar on a Stick project gives children access to their Sugar on any computer in their environment with just a USB memory stick. Taking advantage of the Fedora LiveUSB, it's possible to store everything you need to run Sugar on a single USB memory stick (minimum size 1GB).
What do you mean by "usb" if not a usb flash drive "memory stick"?
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#580
Re: Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) for XO
Rao
Contributor
Posts: 71
August 11, 2009, 03:56:02 PM
Quote from: mavrothal on July 05, 2009, 12:15:59 AM
Firefox 3.5 is really faster than 3.0 and a worthy addition in Teapots Ubuntu Intrepid. However, it may never become available for Intrepid and Jaunty's availability is unclear at this point.
Fortunately there is an easy way to install (and keep updating) Firefox 3.5. Is
based on this post
with minimal changes. Namely
libstdc++5
should be already there and you'll need
w3m
for the script to run. So:
- Open Synaptic and verify that you have
libstdc++5
. Install it if not. Also install
libnotify-bin
and
w3m
.
-
Download the Ubuntuzilla .deb
package and install by double-clicking.
- Open terminal and just type
ubuntuzilla.py
answer the y/n questions and in few minutes you have Firefox 3.5 installed.
Is considerable faster than 3.0 on the XO to the point that I consider making it the default browser instead of Opera!
PS: Adding the "default full zoom level" pluging and setting default zoom to 120-130 (like in Opera) makes firefox browsing much more comfortable (but a bit slower)
I installed Firefox 3.5 as per the instructions. During the installation there was a message about OpenOffice not being configured (which is true; I found OpenOffice very slow on the XO (as well as on my PC)).
However, it seems the installation of Firefox 3.5 was successful, it seems. Except, when I use it pretty soon the screen gets messed up (a lot of it is black and unreadable), particularly if the web site contains lots of picutures (like nytimes.com) and even the cursor disappears and the system freezes. I have to hard reset the XO and turn it on again to use.
Two other problems which occur quite often (I am surprised that they seem to have been raised only a couple of times) are 1) the XFCE menu at the top of the screen disappears 2) the cursor becomes too sensitive (this may be an inherent problem with the XO). These problems were there even before I installed Firefox 3.5. Whenever the XFCE menu disappeared I just reinstalled it. To get the cursor back to normal sensitivity, I have to press the 4 corner keys simultaneously.
I would like to uninstall Firefox 3.5 and go back to 3.0 unless there is a way to solve the above problems. I would appreciate an suggestions.
Thanks,
Rao
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#581
Re: Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) for XO
mavrothal
Administrator
OLPC News Forum Expert
Posts: 1289
August 12, 2009, 01:33:49 AM
Quote from: Rao on August 11, 2009, 03:56:02 PM
I would like to uninstall Firefox 3.5 and go back to 3.0 unless there is a way to solve the above problems. I would appreciate an suggestions.
Thanks,
Rao
To uninstall use Ubuntuzilla as described here
http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ubuntuzilla/index.php?title=Main_Page#Removal
then install 3.0.x with synaptic from the official Ubuntu repository.
For the record I had none of the problems you report. Must be some other configuration problem not necessarily related to ubuntuzilla or firefox 3.5
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#582
Re: Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) for XO
teapot
OLPC News Forum Expert
Posts: 662
August 12, 2009, 05:36:24 AM
Quote from: mavrothal on August 12, 2009, 01:33:49 AM
To uninstall use Ubuntuzilla as described here
http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ubuntuzilla/index.php?title=Main_Page#Removal
then install 3.0.x with synaptic from the official Ubuntu repository.
For the record I had none of the problems you report. Must be some other configuration problem not necessarily related to ubuntuzilla or firefox 3.5
I have noticed that if images are zoomed/resized along with the page (what is one of the ways to make pages more readable on XO screen), some versions of Firefox may show noise/incomplete images, and some work without problems. Most likely it's related to libraries.
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#583
Re: Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) for XO
brettpim
Contributor
Posts: 31
September 03, 2009, 07:45:26 PM
I have downloaded surial's timelapse scripts (
http://www.olpcnews.com/forum/index.php?topic=2494.msg26025#msg26025
) and have been trying to take some short time lapse movies, but I will do
xotimelapse 60 60
at 22:14:35
and I will get pictures taken at
22:14:42
22:16:35
22:20:42
22:39:46 (here I wiggled my finger on the trackpad and woke it up)
22:41:07
I thought this might be because I had teapot's aggressive power management activated so I
rm /etc/xo-suspend/aggressive
and I also disabled the screensaver. But the XO is still going into some kind of sleep/power savings/something and forgetting that it needs to take a picture every minute.
What do you think I need to do to get it to "stay alert"
thanks
brett
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#584
Re: Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) for XO
markhadman
Senior Contributor
Posts: 112
September 04, 2009, 04:41:26 AM
Quote from: brettpim on September 03, 2009, 07:45:26 PM
I thought this might be because I had teapot's aggressive power management activated so I
rm /etc/xo-suspend/aggressive
and I also disabled the screensaver. But the XO is still going into some kind of sleep/power savings/something and forgetting that it needs to take a picture every minute.
This won't take effect until you reboot the machine.
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