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Topic: Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) for XO (Read 558970 times)
#525
Re: Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) for XO
rrnwexec
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Posts: 6
June 02, 2009, 11:12:38 PM
Has anyone managed to perform a successful Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty) install on the XO yet?
Or, should 8.10 still be the version to use?
Thanks in advance
Randall
~Ubuntu Vancouver Buzz Generator.
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#526
Re: Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) for XO
sola
Senior Contributor
Posts: 135
June 02, 2009, 11:59:33 PM
As far as I know Teapot hasn't finished the Jaunty version yet (there would be a separate thread for it as was with Intrepid)
There don't seem to be any killer feature in Jaunty compared to Intrepid so I suppose it is just not so urgent.
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#527
Re: Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) for XO
helmingstay
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Posts: 5
June 03, 2009, 12:14:20 PM
Quote from: sola on June 02, 2009, 11:59:33 PM
There don't seem to be any killer feature in Jaunty compared to Intrepid so I suppose it is just not so urgent.
Boot time is probably the biggest feature. When asleep, my XO still burns ~2% battery per hour, so there's a big power/mobility advantage from a full shutdown. So far, folks have raved about fast startup times in jaunty. Not sure how compelling of a feature that is...
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#528
Re: Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) for XO
sola
Senior Contributor
Posts: 135
June 03, 2009, 02:28:11 PM
@Helmingstay
If Jaunty boot time were something like 10-15 seconds on the XO, I might be considering it. However, I don't think it will be so fast.
I also suspend my XO but usually keep it plugged in.
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#529
Re: Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) for XO
teapot
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Posts: 662
June 03, 2009, 03:20:10 PM
Quote from: sola on June 02, 2009, 11:59:33 PM
As far as I know Teapot hasn't finished the Jaunty version yet (there would be a separate thread for it as was with Intrepid)
There don't seem to be any killer feature in Jaunty compared to Intrepid so I suppose it is just not so urgent.
I am working on it -- sorry for the delays, things at work still interfere with my work on XO, though not nearly as much as it was earlier this year.
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#530
Re: Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) for XO
teapot
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Posts: 662
June 03, 2009, 03:25:14 PM
Quote from: sola on June 03, 2009, 02:28:11 PM
If Jaunty boot time were something like 10-15 seconds on the XO, I might be considering it. However, I don't think it will be so fast.
On XO boot time mostly depends on amount of things that have to be read from boot media -- what for any desktop-oriented Linux configuration will be more than 10-15 seconds.
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#531
Re: Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) for XO
Directive0
Master Contributor
Posts: 375
June 04, 2009, 09:09:56 AM
Quote from: teapot on June 03, 2009, 03:20:10 PM
Quote from: sola on June 02, 2009, 11:59:33 PM
As far as I know Teapot hasn't finished the Jaunty version yet (there would be a separate thread for it as was with Intrepid)
There don't seem to be any killer feature in Jaunty compared to Intrepid so I suppose it is just not so urgent.
I am working on it -- sorry for the delays, things at work still interfere with my work on XO, though not nearly as much as it was earlier this year.
We all appreciate the time you put in Teapot. We can handle the delay.
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#532
Re: Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) for XO
gruuk
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Posts: 40
June 04, 2009, 12:18:58 PM
Quote from: teapot on June 03, 2009, 03:20:10 PM
I am working on it -- sorry for the delays, things at work still interfere with my work on XO, though not nearly as much as it was earlier this year.
Take all the time you need, there's no rush; I've been using my XO with 8.10 as my travel laptop; connecting to work with it (rdesktop and vpnc) while in another country a few times, even. I could do the same with XFCE over fedora (I did before), but I found ubuntu to be much smoother to use.
Thank you again for all your efforts, it's made my little green machine not only more useful, but also more enjoyable to use.
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#533
Re: Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) for XO
revyn
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Posts: 1
June 05, 2009, 01:43:30 PM
Quote from: teapot on November 30, 2008, 09:11:29 AM
Copy the developer key:
cp /security/* security/
okay, so I tried this part in Terminal and I get this:
"cp: target 'security/' is not a directory"
so...very confused, help please?
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#534
Re: Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) for XO
teapot
OLPC News Forum Expert
Posts: 662
June 07, 2009, 08:07:19 PM
Quote from: revyn on June 05, 2009, 01:43:30 PM
Quote from: teapot on November 30, 2008, 09:11:29 AM
Copy the developer key:
cp /security/* security/
okay, so I tried this part in Terminal and I get this:
"cp: target 'security/' is not a directory"
so...very confused, help please?
What is the output of
ls -l security
?
security MUST be a directory -- if it isn't, you did something wrong, and have to restart everything from the very beginning.
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#535
Re: Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) for XO -- q2e33 doesn't fix microphone input
overbyte
Commenter
Posts: 16
June 08, 2009, 02:20:34 PM
I've been trying to get microphone input to work in the FlashPlayer 10 running inside Firefox 3.0.10 on Ubuntu for XO (8.10 xfce4). The FlashPlayer settings dialog does not hear anything from either the XO's built-in microphone or from an external microphone plugged in. I tried the same settings on a PC runing Ubuntu, and the
FlashPlayer does hear the microphone
there.
I was using the latest firmware q2e41.
I re-flashed back to firmware q2e33 as recommended here. It did make sound output work now (that is, I can hear system sounds like the Ubuntu drum beats at boot-up), but still the microphone is not heard by FlashPlayer.
I also tried the gnome-sound-recorder 2.24.0.1 that comes with this Ubuntu distribution, but it does not hear anything from microphone, no matter which input I select (microphone, capture, etc.) The level indicator in Sound Recorder shows a small level of random sound, but not related to what the microphone hears. When I try to playback what was recorded, I get "Internal GStreamer error: state change failed. Please file a bug at
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=GStreamer
." I didn't get that GStreamer error when I tried all of this with the latest firmware q2e41 before reverting back to q2e33.
Any suggestions to get microphone input working?
.... UPDATE: I went back to the mixer panel on Sound Recorder and muted microphone but unmuted line-in and set it to half volume. Lo! I got sound input from the microphone, both from the internal mic and when I plug in an external mic, from the external mic. So, on this Ubuntu setup, microphone is hooked to line-in on the driver, I guess.
I then went back to the FlashPlayer 10 settings panel and verified that microphone works as long as I keep the Ubuntu volume mixer set with line-in turned up and not muted.
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#536
Re: Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) for XO --wacom kernel module & linux-headers
overbyte
Commenter
Posts: 16
June 09, 2009, 10:22:47 AM
I too am trying to get my
Wacom Bamboo tablet
to work with Ubuntu 8.10 for the XO. I found this explanation of how to install the missing wacom kernel module for Ubuntu 8.10's standard release:
Moosechips' instructions for wacom kernel module installation
. I downloaded and ran Moosechips' script "install_linuxwacom" but it stopped short with an error message generated by the apt-get command line when it tried to get the package
linux-headers-2.6.25.1.olpc.f10b654367d7065
. That file does not exist in the standard apt repositories because it's specific to teapot's version of Ubuntu for XO. Moreover, I'm not sure that the rest of the script would run because it checks for kernel version 2.6.26 or later, and teapot is running 2.6.25. Help! Where can I download the necessary header file? Can the kernel be updated to more recent versions without losing the XO adaptations?
The Ubuntu distribution for the XO is otherwise running great for me. I have even been able to get the FlashPlayer 10 to recognize the XO's video and microphone hardware by going back to firmware q2e33 and using line-in instead of mic volume control. Now if I could get Wacom to work, I'll be able to use the web app
www.vyew.com
whiteboard with my tablet, 2-way video, and 2-way microphone for live educational conferencing over the web between XO's running Ubuntu.
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#537
Re: Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) for XO -- q2e33 doesn't fix microphone input
mavrothal
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OLPC News Forum Expert
Posts: 1289
June 09, 2009, 03:02:04 PM
Quote from: overbyte on June 08, 2009, 02:20:34 PM
I've been trying to get microphone input to work in the FlashPlayer 10 running inside Firefox 3.0.10 on Ubuntu for XO (8.10 xfce4). The FlashPlayer settings dialog does not hear anything from either the XO's built-in microphone or from an external microphone plugged in. I tried the same settings on a PC runing Ubuntu, and the
FlashPlayer does hear the microphone
there.
It is conceivable that by now your installation and mine of Teapot's Ubuntu are quite different but for the record Firefox 3.0.10 Flash 10.0.22.87 and firmware q2e41 work just fine for camera and microphone with the original settings in Alsamixer.
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Moreover, I'm not sure that the rest of the script would run because it checks for kernel version 2.6.26 or later, and teapot is running 2.6.25. Help! Where can I download the necessary header file? Can the kernel be updated to more recent versions without losing the XO adaptations?
Original kernel and modding info can be found here
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Kernel
If you go to "testing" you can find 2.6.27 versions. Also for there is a new kernel hacker at OLPC with some much newer kernel version (.30) look here
http://dev.laptop.org/~dsd/20090604/
However, if these versions will be OK on the XO and more specifically Ubuntu, I do not know. Try them
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Now if I could get Wacom to work, I'll be able to use the web app
www.vyew.com
whiteboard with my tablet, 2-way video, and 2-way microphone for live educational conferencing over the web between XO's running Ubuntu.
I hope you are successful but I would doubt that XO-1 hardware can handle 2-way video let alone running other applications in the background while doing this
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XO-1: Is never going to run Flash, but is certainly flashy!
(If you want Flash, get an XO-1.5 running OLPC 11.2.0 or
XOpup
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#538
Re: Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) for XO
overbyte
Commenter
Posts: 16
June 10, 2009, 10:01:45 AM
Actually, 2-way video and simultaneously 2-way audio is working fine at
www.vyew.com
between my Ubuntu-XO and a Windows computer communicating over the Internet through vyew's server. There's a delay naturally due to the round trip over the Internet, but the video and audio are clear at both machines. The XO is running FlashPlayer 10 in Firefox.
The problem with the Wacom Bamboo tablet is still unsolved. When I plug the tablet into another laptop running Ubuntu 8.10 (not an XO but an old Pentium III HP notebook), the Wacom
just works
as a mouse. When I do the same on the Ubuntu-XO, the blue LEDs on the tablet light up, but the stylus movement has no effect on the screen pointer. An external mouse does work. "modprobe -l wacom*" reports that "wacom.ko" is present in kernel input drivers on the generic Ubuntu 8.10, but nothing is reported on the Ubuntu-XO, confirming that I need to get the driver. The generic machine is running Ubuntu kernel 2.6.24-24-generic. The XO has 2.6.25-20080925-.... .
Do you think I can just copy the wacom.ko file to the Ubuntu-XO and get it to run after a reboot?
Or might the .ko file be specific to the kernel revision number and need to be recompiled with the new header file when I can get it?
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#539
Re: Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) for XO
mavrothal
Administrator
OLPC News Forum Expert
Posts: 1289
June 10, 2009, 01:17:16 PM
Quote from: overbyte on June 10, 2009, 10:01:45 AM
Actually, 2-way video and simultaneously 2-way audio is working fine at
www.vyew.com
between my Ubuntu-XO and a Windows computer communicating over the Internet through vyew's server. There's a delay naturally due to the round trip over the Internet, but the video and audio are clear at both machines. The XO is running FlashPlayer 10 in Firefox.
Impressive!
Every other application the uses 2-way video (Video chat, Skype) just crashes the XO almost immediately
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Do you think I can just copy the wacom.ko file to the Ubuntu-XO and get it to run after a reboot?
Or might the .ko file be specific to the kernel revision number and need to be recompiled with the new header file when I can get it?
I'm sure that other people can address it much better than me, but I think that even with the same kernel version you have to recompile the kernel to add a new module. Try something like
this
However just copying is simple enough to test
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XO-1: Is never going to run Flash, but is certainly flashy!
(If you want Flash, get an XO-1.5 running OLPC 11.2.0 or
XOpup
)
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